This is what a stupid comment looks like

Every so often, someone visits the site and leaves a comment so frustrating and idiotic, I can’t help but re-post it for all to see. The latest pearl of wisdom comes from a commenter named Connor, who thought I was being unfair in my analysis of the highly dangerous ‘imagine your Lyme disease away’ scam called Advanced Cell Training. Here’s what he had to say:

Good Atheist, I would like to start by acknowledging the fact that I cannot prove God’s existence to you, just as much as you cannot disprove his existence to me. So let us refrain from attacking the spiritual position in this process, seeing as neither of us are qualified to have a position.

I love this ‘you can’t disprove the existence of my deity argument’ that religious rubes throw around as though it means something. I can’t disprove the invisible pink unicorn, or Russell’s celestial teapot, but who cares? The burden of proof is always on those making an extraordinary claim. It isn’t my job to go around trying to disprove the countless invented gods whose attributes conveniently lie outside the realm of natural, testable laws.

Readers, please keep bias in mind. This article was written by an atheist. This means that the moment the author discovered prayer was involved in ACT, his personal belief system rejected everything about it. He mentally cannot cope with the possibility of success in ACT because at its core, it goes against his definition of reality. This discredits his article at its core, because it is not solely an attack on ACT. It is also an attack on religion itself. Part of his thinking process is that since it involves prayer, it must be fraud. Because to him, prayer isn’t real. So when you say your [sic] talking to God, he will laugh in your face.

I might ask you to prove you aren’t just talking to yourself before I laugh, although most of the time, the total ignorance on display usually makes me want to cry. How human beings can still cling to Bronze Age myths in light of the greatest scientific revolution in the history of our species is depressing, not hilarious.

It’s not just my ‘reality’ that praying flies in the face of. Every single study in regards to praying has shown it has absolutely no effect. But this sort of proof is likely to fall on deaf ears accustomed to hearing that comforting thoughts have some form of effect on the natural world. It doesn’t. My lack of belief only makes me less gullible.

How can one be so sure about something he’s never tried? I believe you read other people’s blogs, and made your own decision on whether or not this works. That is fair. However, to read other people’s “beliefs” and to regurgitate them as your own while stating it in such a factual manner only reveals your inability to truly understand the process. This discredits you more than you know, making you simply another “blogger with a position on something he’s never tried.”

It’s fairly easy to judge the merit of so-called ‘medical treatments’ by examining their claims, and then testing them using standard methodologies. If ACT practitioners claim praying and performing superstitiously driven activities improved their health, then we can easily do a double blind test to find if the effects are more significant than a simple placebo. These kinds of tests happen all the time with legitimate medical research, and it’s still the best way to determine if something important is actually going on. ‘Trying it’ is about as scientific as ‘shove your finger in this socket and see what happens!’

So friends, I implore you to use this critical thinking that the “good atheist” talks about. Will you try this risk free, to save a life? Or will you sit here reading this blog post on someone else’s personal opinion. Maybe I am just a leader, but i [sic] prefer making my own judgements [sic] off experience rather than what the general populous has to say.

A leader? In terrible thinking perhaps, but there’s nothing in this entire comment that sounds compelling in the slightest. It’s the same trope religious people offer all the time: just try it, and it’ll change your life! All you need to do is surrender any of your actual critical thinking skills and simply embrace the idea that praying, magical thinking, and the giant bearded anthropomorphized deity in the sky aren’t just stupid constructs of your mind, but actually real! Hey, I wonder if this guy is going to end his useless rant with some kind of annoying Bible quote for good measure…

“Unless I see in His hands the imprint of the nails, and put my finger into the place of the nails, and put my hand into His side, I will not believe.” (John 20:25) Christians, where is your faith?

In the garbage bin of history, I’d wager; just like the rest of the other pathetic excuses for cosmogonies which have come and gone.

Comments (10)

  • avatar

    Andrew

    Jacob. You are a pathetic hypocrite. What is the difference between a preacher begging for money and you begging for money? There is no difference. You are what you supposedly protest against.

    Second, you are infringing upon our right to religious freedom. You are a scum bag.

    Third, if you dont like how religion is used to divide and conquer, stop treating the symptom and attack the people (use names, not adjectives) who are ruining society.

    You dumbass.

    PS- Im not religious, at all. But I do respect peoples inherent rights!!!!!

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    Andrew

    Durrrrr! Im Jacob Foreskin! Ima spew hatred at people who spew hatred because that is the smart thing to do! Gimme money! I refuse to get a job like a real man. I want to type on the computer and get paid! Grrrrr I hate religion! Gimme money!!!

    You retard. Get a job you pathetic leach.

  • avatar

    Jacob Fortin

    What point are you trying to make exactly, other than the fact that you dislike what I wrote? I don’t give a shit if you aren’t religious; certainly didn’t seem to teach you any common sense or debating tactic outside of lazy ad hominems. As soon as you have a fucking point, I’d love to hear it.

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    Andrew

    Nice try Foreskin. Ohhhh I called you a name. Heaven forbid! Look at Jacob use the power of denial, just like the people he harasses. Double standards galore here at TGA.

    You want to see a truly stupid comment. Read of Jacob Foreskin has to say about 9/11. “A group of Mooslims flew two planes into two buildings and left three buildings falling at free fall speed in their own imprint…. for the first time in world history.”

    LMAO. You are one dumb mofo.

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    The Observant Skeptic

    “PS- Im not religious, at all. But I do respect peoples inherent rights!!!!!”

    Apparently, you don’t. Humans have the right to live to decent, effective healthcare. There are treatments to Lyme’s and ACT isn’t a recognized one. Not because prayer is “involved” in ACT. But because ACT *IS* prayer disguised as science. Why disguised? Because science is “a systematic enterprise that builds and organizes knowledge in the form of testable explanations and predictions about the universe. In an older and closely related meaning, “science” also refers to a body of knowledge itself, of the type that can be rationally explained and reliably applied.”

    Rational explanation and reliability, motherfucker, DO YOU HAVE IT? Because ACT certainly doesn’t.

  • avatar

    Anubis

    I understand that people get desperate and want to believe there are easy and cheap solutions to health problems. And I don’t give a damn if they want to pray or do any other magical bullshit, but they should, first of all, seek real medical help.

    And about that “pray your illnesses away” crap, even if a god existed, I would count him as a douchebag for requiring people to be on their knees begging for their health. Couldn’t he just heal the people he deems worthy? What would a god gain from a bunch of humans saying how awesome he is?

    To want something like that to be true is, like Hitchens said, to wish to live as an abject slave.

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    Mary Ann Schmeltzer

    I have questioned my faith in the past, but I know for sure there is an afterlife and I have photographic proof. My father passed in 1994 and my mother passed this past December. My brother and I sold our family home of over 40 years 3 months before my mother died. One month after my mother passed, I drove past my former home and took a few pictures as I drove by. When I got home and looked at the pictures, my mother and father were on the front porch, IN PLAIN SITE..I must say that THERE WERE NO PEOPLE ON THE PORCH WHEN I TOOK THE PICTURES. In the photos, they appeared to be I around 30 years old. The reason I took pictures is because my parents bedroom light was on and no one was living in the house at the time. The people who bought it did so to flip it, so it was under renovation at the time I drove by, my father was found dead in my parents bedroom in 1994 and that was the only room in the house where there was a light lit. I really hope you all think about your decision to not believe.

  • avatar

    BlueIndependent

    Connor’s is one of a spate of recent “atheist gotcha!” screeds I’ve read that is basically nothing more than the textbook definition of projection, in its most raw form. They basically just turn around the atheist critique of their lack of critical thinking and throw it back at us as if we’re the ones not getting it. Doing so just makes us laugh because we’re not the ones believing religious nonsense.

  • avatar

    jokan

    what a bunch of religious and superstitious crap

  • avatar

    dug

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