Apologist thinks atheism leads to sexual immorality

I’m feeling good this morning. According to Christian apologist Josh McDowell, the web is infested with atheists like me trying to spread their vile message of godlessness and pornography. While I certainly agree with the first part of the accusation, I wish to clarify that while TGA endorses pornography, I still think that there’s way too much of it that’s anal. What happened to the vagina, guys? And please, I’m begging you: no more ass-to-mouth. You’re fucking killing me.

McDowell is worried that as Christianity slowly goes the way of the dodo, sexual “immorality” is growing, and the only way to explain this is by blaming a group you dislike for ideological reasons:

The Internet has given atheists, agnostics, skeptics, the people who like to destroy everything that you and I believe, almost equal access to your kids as your youth pastor and you have… whether you like it or not.

Oh noes! Did you know that children are being exposed to other opinions besides Christianity? Overwhelmingly, the tech savviness of atheists have given us the advantage, and as a result, the whole world is becoming a giant cesspool of sexual permissiveness.

I made the statement off and on for 10-11 years that the abundance of knowledge, the abundance of information, will not lead to certainty; it will lead to pervasive skepticism. And, folks, that’s exactly what has happened. It’s like this. How do you really know, there is so much out there… This abundance [of information] has led to skepticism. And then the Internet has leveled the playing field

Not skepticism! Every crime in the history of humanity was the result of someone thinking for themselves, and not taking things based merely on authority, right?

Of course, the only thing that seems to REALLY occupy his mind is the amount of pornography that’s available on the Internet. He should know: according to this article in New Scientist, States with a higher percentage of conservative voters watch more porn than their hippy counterparts. It’s not really all that surprising: for evangelicals, sin is some hot and nasty shit, bound to be entangled with feelings of guilt, remorse and shame. Throw in a little crystal meth and a gay prostitute in the mix, and you’re ready to be a minister!

The majority of all the 2.2 billion people who go to the Internet daily are between 15 to 25 years of age, he said. And there are 4.2 million pornographic sites. “Do you know how many pornographic emails would be circulated just today? 2.5 billion…just one click away.

I love how these guys seem to conflate atheism with pornography, as though the lack of belief in a 2000 year old dead Jewish carpenter (the first and the last I’m assuming) somehow means that kids are going to do hot and nasty things to one another. Newsflash, Josh: they already do that shit regardless of what you tell them. It’s kind of the reason why the human race has endured; if we didn’t like fucking so much, we’d be facing extinction like the modern panda.


Comments (8)

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    Jordan Kotzebue

    google 3 words to disprove him: youth pastor watch

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    I evolved from an ape, whats your excuse?

    I love it when they link two completely unrelated things together to make it some evil axis and now we as atheists are also pornographers? That wouldn’t have won a debate in my public school buddy, stick to talking to god in your little churches and leave the rest of the thinking, feeling public the fuck alone.

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    Why is it that it’s the religious types who are more hung up on sex than the secular types? They’re always the ones going on about the evils of sex, often in very graphic and imaginative detail. One would think they had one hand on their holy book and the other down their pants.

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    @Leila… I guess the point that for the religious people it is a sin. Being a sin is forbidden, being forbidden is much sweeter than if it would be allowed.

    It really pisses me off, when they start with one thing, and step to the next… like atheist is a pornographer, a pornographer must be a raper… It is like saying every catholic is a child molester, because there are some catholic priests who molested children’s… It has no logic, but they like to use this stupid arguments all the time.

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    Yeah! for the Internet!!
    Go forth youth, Learn, and Sin greatly!!!

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    They’re hung up on sex because it makes most people feel really really good. Throws off all kinds of endorphins and hormones, both yours and your partners, that combine to creates this euphoric awesomeness.

    If you’re busy having sex and feeling good you’re not listening to the pastor, you’re supposed to be doing what he says and attaining that kind of pleasure through “love and service to the {insert deities here}”, in religion any outside pleasures are considered a bad thing.

    Making sex a “sin”, knowing full well that nearly everyone wants to *have* sex, gave them the opportunity to make people feel guilt for something completely natural, so guilty in fact they are willing to go to the arbiter of the “Gods” to try and have it soothed away.


    Anal porn is probably popular, and will likely continue to be, because its so “taboo” it is likely that so few people ever get to experience it. For those people porn provides a release for the “fantasies” they have but are unlikely to ever experience first hand.

    Unless you can convince people in general to have more anal sex, and *please* read up on it if you’re going to attempt it because there is a *LOT* of prep work needed to be done before the cock or toy goes in the ass, anal porn will continue to be an in demand item. Even then I would expect it continue in popularity because the girls who are willing to do anal in porn get paid quite a bit more for the scenes they do it in.

    As for the Ass to Mouth stuff: sure its squicky on the surface, at least until you do the research on it. Because of the length of the shoots, a 20 minute porn shoot can often go several hours (different angles, closeups, lighting changes, etc…), the girls often won’t eat the night before and then go crazy on the enemas until the water comes out clear; there is a Belladonna video floating around on the interwebs where she shows her pre-shoot anal regimen, she took an eight ounce enema bottle performed over 100 enemas on herself (that’s just over 23 liters).

    Any shit would have been washed away long before the ATM took place. Though I have to admit that because its late I’m too tired to go and look up what the other health risks are of doing an ATM, even with a squeaky clean rectum. I’ll leave that up to you if you’re interested. Hell, ask Dan Savage and plug the show while you’re at it! 🙂


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    The Big Blue Frog

    Have you ever read McDowell’s “masterwork” apologism “Evidence That Demands A Verdict”? It’s horrible. It’s not even worthy of the title “apologism.”

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