Creationists are racist morons

You know what I love about religion? When they try and reconcile modern science with their primitive, superstitious beliefs, the one thing they can’t seem to mask is their profound racism. Check out this diagram supposedly explaining Adam and Eve within the context of modern anthropology. Notice how the soulless hominids are colored, while the first real people with souls are white as ghosts. There you have it folks: blacks, natives and other “ancient” hominids are soulless beasts who more than deserved to be under the thumb of the superior souled white man.

NOTE: The title is inflammatory, and even the organization that defends this view contends they aren’t racist. No one wants to admit to being one, obviously, and I bet they genuinely feel as though they are open minded and tolerant in their effort to “scientifically” examine this whole “soul business”. It doesn’t change the fact this is just a dressed up theory which is in fact quite racist, and it’s exactly this kind of bogus pseudoscience that justified slavery, genocide, and all kinds of atrocities.

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    Mike

    Whered the image originate?

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    Jacob Fortin

    I just put up the link to it. It’s Answers in Genesis, unsurprisingly.

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    Jacob Fortin

    Sorry, it comes from Progressive Creationism. AIG actually tries to disprove it. Hilarious when you think about it.

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    Men's Battle Plan

    This is from Reason’s to Believe (www.reasons.org). They are a group of Christians who believe in the old earth creation model. Hugh Ross is one of the scientist and I think he came up with this chart and I believe is from his book “Who is Adam”.

    Here is a link to an article they posted that is answering questions from “new earth” Christians who disagree with RTB’s stance on old earth thoughts:
    http://www.reasons.org/rtbs-position-humanity-and-hominids

    I don’t think they are racist and I am certain they don’t think that Adam and Eve were white. Is that what you are saying? The color in the chart doesn’t have anything to do with race, it is depicting a spiritless person verses a person with a spirit.

    I know you think that we are stupid but for you to make these claims without doing any research is foolish.

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    Jacob Fortin

    Yes, more research into nonsense is needed!

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    Duane

    Sorry MBP, but that chart is pretty racist in more than one way.

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    Men's Battle Plan

    This is always how you and your followers respond. I come up with a response to your posts and you say “Who cares!? It’s all a bunch of stupid ancient fairy tales!”

    Whether you believe that God is real or not, it would benefit you to know what you are talking about before you post.

    For example, obviously Huckleberry Finn was not a real person and Mark Twain’s books are fiction. If I go around saying that Huckleberry was trans-gender then I would get lots of pushback from people who really like Mark Twain’s work. What if I responded to them saying “Why would I research more into whether or not Huckleberry Finn was trans-gender, it’s all fiction!”

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    Jon

    I hate to say it, but Men’s Battle Plan *sort of* has a point. I’ve always thought that it’s important to do enough research into religious claims that you have an accurate picture of what they ACTUALLY believe. There are enough flat-out scientifically inaccurate claims and “I reached into my ass and pulled out this winner!” claims that are already being made that one doesn’t really need to make anything up or over-reach.

    Look at all the bullshit claims (about Atheism being a religion and/or directly leading to Stalin and Mao) that religious people make about us. I’m definitely NOT saying we need to be experts in theology (fuck that argument!), but I think it’s kind of important not to go creating strawman arguments and accusing the religious of holding positions they may or may not hold. To summarise, there’s enough damning shit that they’ll ADMIT to believing.

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    Brett

    It’s a stupid looking picture, because it absolutely implies a white vs. black. Whites have souls, black don’t. Whether or not that is the message, that’s what the sign looks like so at the very least it is a shitty sign.

    I looked at the page @MBP posted. It seems their position is that Adam and Eve are a historical couple dating back 6’000 to 100’000 years. That’s a BIG difference. Saying all humans descended from a couple 6’000 years ago is 100% bullshit, saying that same thing happened 100’000 years ago is still bullshit, but to a lesser degree (because it’s still “creation”). It’s just asshole creationists hedging their bets.

    Homo sapiens sapiens (modern humans) evolved somewhere around 200’000-250’000 years ago. Mitochondrial Eve is thought to have lived about 200’000 years. Mitochondrial Eve IS NOT the “first” human, she is the most recent maternal ancestor of all living people.

    I agree it’s good to know the stance of your opposition before making an argument/counter argument, however regardless of the details young earth creationism is 100% bullshit, plain and simple. No deeper research needed. The earth is billions of years old. Life is billions of years old. Humans weren’t created over night, humans evolved, just like every other life form around us today. It doesn’t matter exactly what the stance is, the idea itself is fundamentally flawed and stands in direct opposition of all the multi-disciplinary evidence we have.

    And sorry, i’m not going to feign respect or political correctness and act like everyone’s feelings matter. The fact is if you believe the earth was created by a god 6’000 or 10’000 or 100’000 years ago and this god created mankind, you’re a damn fool. Creationism or intelligent design or whatever the fuck you want to call it is some of the stupidest, most nonsensical bullshit ever thought up and the fact that assholes think it deserves the respect of legitimate scientists and should be taught to children literally makes me sick to my stomach. Fuck.

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    Jacob Fortin

    So it isn’t racist to suggest that Aborigines and Natives have no souls? Should I remind everyone that this is exactly how slavery was justified?

    As for your point, MBP, the rationalization of people doesn’t interest me in the slightest. This kind of “progressive creationism” is still based on racist doctrine.

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    Jon

    Technically, they’re right. Aboriginies and Native Americans DON’T have souls. Then again, neither do Caucasians. =)

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    MDS

    MBP has come to battle!!! Holy jihad must be waged upon all you sinners and evil doers for not believing in his book of fiction and invisible friends!!!

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    Men's Battle Plan

    MDS,

    Thanks for leaving a comment on my website.

    I thank you misunderstood my post, “Make War”. If you actually listened to the song, even for the first 10 seconds, you would have realized that I was talking about “making war” with our sin and ourselves.

    It’s not about making war against anyone else other than myself.

    Please try to understand people before cussing at them, calling them a fag, and spreading lies. Open your ears and have tolerance for others with different beliefs.

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    Jacob Fortin

    Making War against one’s self is sick and twisted, dude. It’s a corrupt view of our nature, and it sends the wrong message about how people should deal with often conflicting and confusing emotions.

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    Men's Battle Plan

    Don’t you have any thing that you want to do but know you shouldn’t? Any vices? Before you went full time with TGA wasn’t it hard to go into work at a job you didn’t like? This is what I’m talking about.

    It’s the war we have within ourselves to get up in the morning and do the things we don’t want to do. Even if you love your life and your job there still is about 20% of my day where I have to make myself do something I don’t want to do.

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    Jacob Fortin

    The concept of sin in itself is poisonous. Are there aspects of my monkey-self that I don’t like? Sure, but I’m not about to declare “war” on them. That’s the kind of rhetoric that is easily co-opted by fundamentalists who extend their little purity quest to encompass others.

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    Men's Battle Plan

    Gotcha. I understand your point.

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