Project Reason lays the smack-down


Here’s another reason to love Sam Harris: he’s the founder of “Project Reason“, an organization dedicated to spreading scientific knowledge and challenging religious dogmas. As fun and exciting as that mandate is, they’ve done something even cooler: they recently released this infographic entitled “Bible Contradictions”; it’s a comprehensive list of all the parts of the Bible which (I’m sure you’ve guessed by now) contradict in some way. It’s the ultimate resource for anyone tired of having pointless arguments with Christians who don’t think they actually exists. Now, rather than waste your breath, you can simple send them this PDF and be done with it.

For those of you trying to brush up on your Bible critique, it doesn’t get sweeter than this. If you’ve got some skills and time to spare, why don’t you consider volunteering with them? They do good work!

Comments (14)

  • avatar

    Rick

    I saw this posted on reddit. There are some comments on the thread that indicate that a lot of these “contradictions” are less than valid. Not that I don’t think there are metric-shit-ton of contradictions in the bible, but this might not be the end-all-be-all list.

    http://www.reddit.com/r/atheism/comments/e4mnr/most_complete_chart_of_bible_contradictions_ive/

  • avatar

    Men's Battle Plan

    You have to be kidding me. Since most of you aren’t actually going to look up these verses I will help you.

    For #s: 1,3,7,8,9,10,13,14 19,20, 33, 34, 43, 44, 45, 46, 52, 53, 57, 58, 63, 65, 66, 68, 72, 76, 79, 81, 85, 86, 89, 93, 102, 106, 110, 113, 125, 126, 135, (and more but there are too many) About 33% of these are very small details that don’t matter. With any story you will not have exact details correct and in all these cases these details don’t matter. If I say 150,000 people showed up to “Rally to Restore Sanity and/or Fear”, is this a fact? no, there were probably more. But this is what was reported.

    Side note: 7 and 9 are the same. Did they proofread this?

    2: Abraham was justified by faith AND by works. James 2:22 “You see that faith was active along with his works, and faith was completed by his works;”

    4: ahimeliech and Abiathar are the same name. Just like if my father was named James (but everyone called him Jim) then I named my son James (and everyone also called him Jim). Or another example would be Richard and Dick.

    5, 6 : The word “daughter” in 1 Kings and 1 Chronicles are used differently (as in many other parts of the bible). 1 Kings uses it as Daughter and 1 Chronicles uses it as Granddaughter. Or you might use the term “daughter of eve” to describe all women. Of course none of you would but it is a phrase.

    11:They don’t contradict, Gen 1 is a general account and Gen 2 is a more detailed account of creation.

    12: Same as 5. The word Son can mean that I came from my grandfather. This term is the same as saying “Jesus was the son of man” meaning He came from man. This was a common phrase back then.

    15: The old testament commands that a adulterer should be killed. The story in the New Testament changes this by saying that “Let him who is without sin among you be the first to throw a stone at her.” He was calling out the fact that the Pharisees were very sinful but were punishing a woman who He thought was less sinful. They were hypocrites. Much like many pastors and priests today.

    16: These verses don’t contradict each other. Exodus, Deut and Hebrews say don’t commit adultery and Numbers and Hosea are talking about taking a wife. Help me here.

    17: It was written that the Amalekites were “utterly destroyed” but apparently there was some survivors because in 1 Chron 4:43 about 300 years later Amalekites were killed. The phrase”Utterly destroyed” means that the people were practically destroyed. This is like saying my care it totaled or totally destroyed but obviously it wasn’t destroyed all the way but very very damaged.

    18: There is no 2 Chronicles 16:30. This must be a typo.

    21: Joshua says the city was left in ruins but the people didn’t die, they went into captivity. The people who were in captivity and came back to live in Israel are listed in Nehemiah 7.

    22: This doesn’t even make sense. Aijalon was a city not a person. A city can not be from a tribe. A tribe owns a city, not the other way around.

    to be continued.

  • avatar

    Jacob Fortin

    ^I’ll never get tired of people trying to defend a book of mythology as though it’s really the revealed word of God. Up next, how the Iliad has no contradictions!

  • avatar

    Jacob Fortin

    ^ Also, Gen 1 and 2, if one is a “detailed account”, than why are the details so different?

  • avatar

    JohnJay

    Nice. But agree about a proof reader.

    263 and 264 are the same, as are 323 and 324

  • avatar

    Scion

    I agree that while the graphic is nice, I’d rather have a far whittled down version which just contains the ‘moral’ imperatives… these are the ones which really matter:

    To answer the reviewers question above about 16 – adultery: they all say that they forbit it, but in Hosea, god commands hosea to take a wife who is already taken – and then looks favourably on the union, and on the child out of it.

    A similar thing happens with incest – forbidden everywhere, but Abraham takes Sarah as his wife, when she’s his sister – and god’s pretty happy with that one too…

  • avatar

    Daniel

    wow this is awesome. They did do a great thing here. My only complaint – as a graphic designer – is that they used tiny white text on a black background. My eyes are hurting trying to read that. hehe

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    alastair

    Awesome poster, i wanna print it on heaps of A1 sheets and slap it up on walls all over the city.

    Love it how “mens battle plan” spent the time to try argue back, the evidence is not on his side. Poor deluded mind. Keep doing the mental gymnastics, you may be able to justify your way through anything.

  • avatar

    Anonymous Atheist

    Here is the link to the page on their website about this PDF: http://www.project-reason.org/gallery3/image/105/

    The red & black color scheme appealing to typical atheist liking (myself included) of dark ‘evil’ style, but is intimidating-looking, can be difficult to read (especially if reduced from full poster size), and is ink-intensive to print.

    To help anyone who would prefer a lighter style, I have modified it to a blue & white color scheme. This makes it more attractive to potential viewing by believers (not giving that ‘evil’ first impression), easier to read, and saves a ton of ink. (Note that I used a nicer-looking more-readable shade of blue than you get with a simple inversion, I kept the print-guide borders and the Reason Project logo their original colors, and I also replaced the color designations in the explanation text.)

    Since I wasn’t able to work from the original vector-based file, the resulting PDF from my editing is much larger (46MB) to preserve print quality. Not ideal, but IMHO it is worth it. :-)

    Please share this file around the atheist ‘blogosphere’, and feel free to upload copies of it to other websites in case this link doesn’t last.
    http://ifile.it/j7lvmod/bibleContra_big-bluewhite.pdf
    short version: http://ifile.it/j7lvmod

  • avatar

    Men's Battle Plan

    Alastair, Even if I didn’t believe in anything supernatural I still think it’s good to defend this because if you looked up these verses there is no doubt that you would agree that most of these contradictions are not valid.

    For a group of people that talk so much about logic and reason I’m amazed that you would just accept these claims. You have become what you hate the most, kool-aid drinkers.

    Can anyone argue with the answers that I’ve posted?

    Jake, please describe what contradictions you see between Gen 1 and Gen 2.

  • avatar

    Daniel

    Yea arguing about the tiny details and continuity of scriptures is like two people arguing about inconsistencies in episodes of Star Trek. They’re both just made up stories by many desperate human writers so of course you’d be able to find inconsistencies.

  • avatar

    Jacob Fortin

    @Men’s Battle Plan: are you serious? You want me to debate what parts contradict? What about the simple fact that in Gen 1 God creates the animals and plants before humans, and in the second one after? Or in the first, Adam and Eve are created at the same time, and the other Eve is created after Adam finishes naming all the animals (probably the stupidest part of the story really) and then has a woman made from his rib.

    Do you honestly think this ignorant made up bullshit actually describes real events? Get your head out of your ass my friend.

  • avatar

    Men's Battle Plan

    “are you serious? You want me to debate what parts contradict?”-Jacob
    I wasn’t saying there weren’t any valid contradictions, I was just asking you to point one out so that we could discuss. I’ve talked to you before about how I’m just curious what others believe. I’m having these conversations so I can force myself to learn.

    “What about the simple fact that in Gen 1 God creates the animals and plants before humans, and in the second one after?”-Jacob
    I do believe that the Genesis account is a very general description of what happened but obviously there are more details that aren’t described. You are right that the events are in a different order. Not a big deal however because this is just a general description of what happened. It seems as though Gen 1 was very detailed in regards to the timing of the events and Gen 2 wasn’t as detailed about the timing but more detailed about how man was created.

    “Or in the first, Adam and Eve are created at the same time, and the other Eve is created after Adam finishes naming all the animals (probably the stupidest part of the story really) and then has a woman made from his rib.”-Jacob
    Gen 1 says, generally, that “man” was created. and Gen 2 gives a more specific account of the exact details of how it happened.

    Again, I want to point out that what I’m saying doesn’t prove the existence of God, I just wanted to point out the fact that most of these contractions are not valid.

    I know most of you have deconverted because you have had the major pillars of your faith knocked out. Just like in the video that Jacob sent me about “graceful degradation” (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12rP8ybp13s&feature=related) not all pillars need to knocked out from under you for your faith to stand. He explains that these micro-beliefs make up a mega-belief in God. One of these micro-beliefs is that the bible is true. You guys will look at a poster like this,are very impressed, then that micro-belief dies and you move closer to deconversion.

    So I wanted to point out to those who haven’t deconverted but are thinking about it, that this contradiction chart is full of flaws. Many of you who claim to be logical won’t do the work necessary to find out for yourselves whether these contradictions are true. You look at the pretty chart with so many cool red lines and say “See! The bible is false because it has so many contradictions!”

    “Love it how ‘mens battle plan’ spent the time to try argue back, the evidence is not on his side. “-alastair
    Is this chart a piece of your evidence? If so, I’ve poked holes in much of it already.

    “Do you honestly think this ignorant made up bullshit actually describes real events? Get your head out of your ass my friend.”-Jacob
    Like I’ve said to you many times, I am seeking the truth. I am open-minded to what you guys have to say.

  • avatar

    Jacob Fortin

    I think those are just the apologetics speaking. If it says in one that God created man AFTER plants, and animals, and in the other BEFORE, you can just easily dismiss that as “oh, in one it’s really simplified, in the other it’s more detailed”. However, if you study how the Bible came together, and realize that the contradictions are merely a matter of all of these separate documents being compiled together, it makes a lot more sense.

    I don’t think contradictions should be the only wy to abandon belief in God. It’s difficult to be consistent, even in our every day belief. Instead, let the cruelty, stupidity, and ignorance of the Universe be the proof you need.

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