Morality without God

Man, I hate the accusation that just because I don’t believe in a sky-deity I suddenly don’t possess any morals whatsoever. Who decided the only way to “be good” was by blindly accepting the moral edicts of a 6000 year old manuscript? Did everyone suddenly forget the fact things were pretty fucked up back then? What parts of the Bible are still moral by today’s standards? How about selling your daughter into slavery, or murdering your family members if they didn’t believe in the same God as you? Talk about a great moral tome!

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    beriukay

    Morality is a simple, stupid code. If you program morality with the right syntax, any old TI-83 graphing calculator could be perfectly moral (according to whichever moral code was inputted). Morality is an excuse not to have to think about a complicated issue, as well as a comfort blanket that shushes your feelings of conflict because “it’s okay, somebody else already thought this out, and figured out what is best. All you have to do is blindly do it and everything will be fine”.

    Morality is worthless to anything that knows how to think. Ethics are what truly matters. Once you have grown out of childish morality, you can think about consequences, weigh utilities, and decide for yourself what is best. This carries the weight and gravity of responsibility, but what adult shouldn’t be prepared to carry this weight? We basically do this anyway when we foolishly accept a moral code without ethical consideration, but are so doped up on feeling good about ourselves (and we enjoy looking down on others, I can’t forget that aspect), that we don’t even realize we are making ethical judgments. We may be failing to meet our standards, but this is beyond our understanding if we continue to follow the moral code. That is why the question “How can an atheist be moral?” is not only laughable, but also deeply foolish.

    I am no longer moral, except in the sense that I have already done my ethical thinking and derived solutions. These solutions can be stored in the brain as kind of an ad hoc morality, but since I already did the thinking, I can theoretically go back and analyze the assumptions and inputs to see if my pseudo-morality algorithm was corrupted somewhere. AND THEN I CAN FIX IT. Fundamentalists are incapable of that last part, and the fluffy religionists either craft their own morality via ethical precepts like me, or they are incapable of analysis and do what society has ingrained into them. To be fair, we are all conditioned in this way. But after growing up, a thinker should be able to explain why they think something is good or bad based on probability and utility of outcomes. The same cannot be said for the fluffy faithists.

    How can I be moral without gods? I’m not.
    How can you be ethical *with* gods? Only by growing up.

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    Kevin

    Great video – I’ve subscribed to that channel already.

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    Mike

    @berlukay
    That’s bloody brilliant. I’ve never thought of it quite like that before. Thanks for making my night with logic.

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    Rose

    I’m a Catholic and, needless to say, I believe in God. Yes, that Someone you called a “Sky-deity”. ;)

    Throughout my life, I’ve met many people belonging to different religions and having a variety of beliefs and traditions. Some stubbornly impose their fundamentalist beliefs on me and some accept and respect my beliefs and still keep their own beliefs unshaken. What everyone needs to understand is that, God didn’t want us to shove each other’s thoughts down each other’s throats. He wanted us to find our own ways to Him, even if it meant refusing to believe His existence. Everyone must know: we’re all correct in our beliefs as long as we abide by what is universally, MORALLY CORRECT. And by that, I mean finding what is RIGHT not through other people but through your own, personal reflection (autonomy).

    A moral man need not be a religious man. He only needs to always choose the right over the wrong.

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    Rose

    Oh, and ONE MORE THING. The Bible is, to me, the most R-RATED novel ever written. To most people, it has a lot of controversies that would “lessen” the credibility of Christian faith (which of course is NOT possible because faith is something that is not only intangible but immeasurable as well) but, to someone with a mature conscience and well-developed sense of morality, these things wouldn’t even matter.

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