When I try to watch these vids I keep getting the message “This video has been removed by the user” Any idea why that is?

Why would you want to continue to be a member of an organization which has committed so many egregious acts of evil?

My TRUTH is that the Mohammed has worked in my life in ways that beyond a reasonable doubt prove to me Allah exists, and His spirit functions precisely as I al told it functions in the Qu’ran. When I follow the precepts of my religion, Mohammed’s promises ALWAYS come to fruition. Thus my personal truths are UNDENIABLE. I have personally tried Mohammed, and found Him to be 100% genuine.

My truths.

Do you see how rationally vacuous such statements are? You can literally find people from ALL religions that can say the same things as you. With as much, if not more, conviction.
All you need to do is change the names to show that such statements contain zero information about truth or how the world works.
Care to furninsh us with more information on how “Jesus has worked in your life”? Something tangible that’s not just an empty statement of belief (which are ten a penny).

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“”"”Hey wait a minute, you make it sound like the Catholic Church is leading the homophobic movement. The Catholic Church isn’t even a front runner on the war against gay marriage.”"”"

This post and this entire discussion have been about the catholic church. Why would anyone bring up the mormons? That would just be off topic. Words to the effect of “We’re not the MOST vehemently homophobic religion/movement” is pathetically weak and a transparent attempt at diversion.

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Profound – Descending far below the surface; opening or reaching to a great depth; deep. (definition #1 on wiktionary)
Delusion – A false belief that is resistant to confrontation with actual facts. (definition #1 on wiktionary)

Now that that’s out of the way, if you’re going to point out a lingual error in future, could you at least do THAT with some intellectual honesty, please?

Now then, onward and upward…

“”"”Hi Jim, sorry but your rationale is fallacious, not mine. You are familiar with basic argument principles, yes? Let’s have a look at your (and Hitchens) argument:
“”"”1. A and B regularly occur together.
“”"”2. Therefore A is the cause of B.
“”"”That’s called the fallacy of “confusing cause and effect.”
“”"”Textbook example:
“”"”1. People are dying of AIDS in places where the Catholic Church forbids the use of contraceptive devices.
“”"”2. Therefore the Catholic Church are murdering people.
“”"”Jim, if you can’t see the fallacy in that… I haven’t much else to say.”"”"

That would actually have some validity if there were no verifiable facts directly linking A and B and i were simply making a speculative and superficial correlation. Unfortunately for you, it’s not that simple, and it seems to me as though you’re just trying to obfuscate the obvious truth by implying that what i said contradicts cause and effect, that somehow factual information is missing… which i suppose is to be expected if you’ve got nothing else to fall back on but feeble attempts at point out nonexistent sophistry.

Let’s have a quick recall of facts.
#1. Condoms fantastically reduce the transmission of aids.
#2. Catholic priests in africa have actually claimed that condoms INCREASE the spread of aids

Where is the logical fallacy in asserting that this attitude, which is imposed upon countless thousands of african catholics infected with HIV, is contributing to the rampant spread of the virus throughout the african continent? Are you seriously going to attempt to refute that? This is exactly what i’m talking about when i say that “The issue is with the fact that what the catholic church condones and does not condone has absolutely no rational basis, and fails to take into account basic human nature”. But further from this… Not only does it fail to take into account human nature, it brazenly contradicts fact, putting into jeopardy the lives of millions of its followers.

And I honestly don’t care all that much that 36% of cathlics opposed prop 8 and that they weren’t all asked and etc etc… My quarrel is not with the people, but with the institution. I am talking about the catholic institution, and its ridiculous and widely varying crusades against homosexual rights, gay marriage, condoms in africa, so on and so forth… The fact that some catholics disagree with tenet A, or with crusade B is moot and not at all addressing any point brought up thus far. The people don’t decide the agenda. The institution does.

The Catholic church rapes probaly thousands if not 10’s of thousands of kids a year and yet your god never says boo about it, his representitives are fucking little kids and ruining their lives for their own preverse pleasure and the fact your god is silent about it means 1 of 2 things. Either there is no god so he cant say anything, or hes just another sick fuck like his priests and bishops. Either way I dont see any reason why you would want to praise him.

Why do you want to believe such nonsense, finding personal evidence is the same thing as me finding personal truth in the orbiting teapot theory. The teapot has helped me in ways you wont even imagin, but i cant prove to you the teapot made the universe but I KNOW it did!!

Its a real shame people are this delusional.

Once again Jim, the CHURCH is its members, not JUST the clergy and/or the ones holding the purse strings. It’s not like Catholics had a say on whether or not the bishops would contribute $200,000 or the Knights of Columbus would contribute $1.4 million. We were not asked. The bottom line is that exit polls showed that 36 percent of Catholics actually OPPOSED Prop 8. So when I say the “church” I am referring to the BODY of the church, not just the executive and/or administrative branch.

Also, on a less serious note, I don’t believe there is a such thing as “profoundly deluded.” The word “profound” means to show “intellectual penetration or emotional depth.” I don’t think there is anything intellectually penetrating or emotionally deep about delusion.

Hi Jim, sorry but your rationale is fallacious, not mine. You are familiar with basic argument principles, yes? Let’s have a look at your (and Hitchens) argument:

1. A and B regularly occur together.
2. Therefore A is the cause of B.

That’s called the fallacy of “confusing cause and effect.”

Textbook example:

1. People are dying of AIDS in places where the Catholic Church forbids the use of contraceptive devices.

2. Therefore the Catholic Church are murdering people.

Jim, if you can’t see the fallacy in that… I haven’t much else to say.