God might be all powerful, but his wallet isn’t

I’ve always been both repulsed and annoyed at the way religious organizations exploit the poor. How many times have I seen or read of preachers pressuring their flock to give when their own cupboards are empty? Too many to count I imagine.  Elder Lynn G. Robbins is a businessman and high ranking member of the Church of Latter-Day Saints. He wrote an article a while back calling on the destitute to obey the “law of  tithing”. If you’re not aware what tithing means, it’s basically 10% of your income that goes automatically to the church.

Lynn ironically enough begins with Charles Dickens’ immortal A Christmas Carol, citing how men like Scrooge find it inconvenient to be charitable. It should be noted that Lynn is the founder and owner of a company called FranklinCovey, which specializes in time management training. In 2005, their revenue was over 280 million dollars. No word on how much he sacrifices to the church in terms of his own income, but I’m willing to bet it isn’t anywhere near what he recommends others give:

When serving a meal, it is much easier to set one more plate at the beginning of the meal than it is to find food for a latecomer once the meal is over and the food has been served. Likewise, isn’t it actually easier to give the Lord the firstlings or the firstfruits than it is to hope that there are sufficient “leftovers” for Him? As the founder of our feast, shouldn’t He be the guest of honor, the first to be served?

Since when does a supposedly All Powerful Entity need fucking money? Is he broke or something? Does he need to refinance his debt? Maybe they want to build yet another gigantic castle. They already have 3 (mega castles), and over 100 regular sized ones, but I guess that’s not really enough, is it? The end paragraph really sums it up nicely:

I am so grateful for the Savior, who was the perfect example of obedience through sacrifice

That’s what any successful religion needs these days: complete obedience and submission from its members, especially the poor (who always seem to give more of their share than the rest, usually out of  desperation). Am I the only one who sees this as completely unappealing? When has submission ever been an admirable trait?

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Comments (23)

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    Lynn

    Great piece Raz.

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    The Big Blue Frog

    I like the approach of the comic who said he threw all his money up in the air, and whatever God wanted, he could keep.

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    chocobar

    Submission is admirable when you’re the Top.

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    plexluthor

    >No word on how much he sacrifices to the church in terms of his own income, but I’m willing to bet it isn’t anywhere near what he recommends others give

    Um, I’ll take that bet. I can almost guarantee he gives 10% of his income to the church, which is what he is asking others to give. I’d bet $100 on it, though we’d have to figure out what exactly would constitute proof one way or another.

    Also, this is a very poorly researched piece. Lynn is not a founder of FranklinCovey (that would be Hyrum Smith and Steven Covey). The mormons have over 100 castles. Their particular god has no debt (as of the 50s). But regardless of that, are you actually willing to make the bet?

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    Char

    Only three??? Try there are 129 mormon temples (castles) in operation, 9 more being built, and 8 more announced to be built. (http://www.ldschurchtemples.com/world/) Expensive indeed!

    Funny how god can build the world, fill it with life, create unexplainable miracles, listen to billions of peoples constant, incoherent babbling, and answer these mumblings, but he needs your money. Hmmm…maybe god’s not so great.

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    Wendy

    Hehehe, so true, so true!

    Personally, I think that if anybody is stupid enough to piss away their money like that, let ‘em. It’s not very nice of the brainwashers, sure, but it’s the rubes’ own faults for keeping the scam artists in business! Quit bein’ a rube and eventually the scam artists will either find a real job, or starve. But, as long as there’re gullible fucks around, there will be assholes to prey on them. Ah, the circle of life!

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    xMuslim

    “I am so grateful for the Savior, who was the perfect example of obedience through sacrifice”

    hmmm, where have I heard that before? Oh yeah that’s how the Muslim radicals get their suicide bombers! Same combination of magical words! Allah (read God), obedience, sacrifice…and used on the same type of crowd, the poor and desperate!

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    Zombie Jesus

    10% goes to God, 15% goes to the waitor.

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    Isaac

    “Religion easily has the best bullshit story of all time. Think about it. Religion has convinced people that there’s an invisible man… living in the sky. Who watches everything you do every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a list of ten specific things he doesn’t want you to do. And if you do any of these things, he will send you to a special place, of burning and fire and smoke and torture and anguish for you to live forever, and suffer, and burn, and scream, until the end of time……. But he loves you…. He loves you. He loves you and he needs money!!”- George Carlin

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    James T. Kirk

    What does God needs a starship for???

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    Cherie M

    As an ex-mormon you have no idea how much it warms my heart to see a depiction of one of their leaders swearing ^^ There are over a hundred temples – though the more recent ones are smaller and have similar construction (McTemples).

    As someone else mentioned though, the 10% would be expected of the guy making 280 million. They must get an insane amount of money from their many members.

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    Jessica Sideways

    This is so totally true of any church, although I cannot speak from experience on the activities of the mor(m)ons…

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    Tyler Chesley

    When I was growing up in the Mormon church you would always hear these anecdotes about faithful members having to decide between paying their tithing or feeding themselves or some other hardship. Of course they would always pay it and God would “bless” them. I don’t think I have to go into why anecdotes are horrible evidence and the limits and unreliableness of human testimony here not to mention that even if they were fairly accurate stories it would amount to nothing more than a post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy. They also taught us that if we would pay our tithing God would bless us with even more money. What a bunch of bullshit! After leaving the Mormon church I landed the best job of my life and make a zillion times more money than I ever did why a Mormon! Just confirms my testimony that paying tithing is a load of shit!

    In the name of the Flying Spaghetti Monster,
    Ramen

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    carole bryant

    Religion is the root of all evil. (Not original,) but I ascribe to the philosophy.

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    Jessica Sideways

    Of course human testimony is unreliable and untrustworthy, look at the testimony of Joseph Smith or L Ron Hubbard.

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    Spector567

    I would love to see the churches fancial records. As a so called not for profit organization they have to spend it all each year. Other groups send it to charity and others use it to renovate when they have surplus. The mormons appartly prefer to build and renovate large castles.
    I want to see how much goes towards various leaders, backers, political causes, renovations and than finally charities.

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    Craig

    Because he’s a member in good standing (which is a requirement to be in the hierarchy) he’s required to pay 10% of his income as well. Though since he’s in the hierarchy he most likely gets a stipend from the church for his living expenses (paid for the people he’s encouraging to donate more). But if he does get a salary from his company, I would guess he is paying tithing on it. However, the tithing requirement is vague at best (The official doctrine is you have to pay “10% of all your increase annually”, which may or may not apply say to investments or other income.

    Either way, the insistence by rich people to the poor that they give one of the richest churches of all time more money is disgusting at best.

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    the rise

    whats the reason for the saying

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    the rise

    i think you have it wrong god dosnt have a salary he just wants to see how loyal you are to him and it dos not matter how you donate your money if its in the name of god because then god believes that you did this in his name so again dosnt matter if you donate to the richest church in the world or the poorest if its in gods name all things are good

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    Ryan

    I think it’s very likely he does donate 10% of his millions to the church. However, here’s the problem: losing 10% of his income won’t ruin his life, 10% of a poor person’s income can be the difference between life and death. The Mormons, in their red state bubble, somehow think that this and ideas like the “fair tax” are actually fair.

    We can only hope that some day we can re-purpose all the money wasted on superstition in some way that benefits society instead.

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    Jessica Sideways

    And I would think that if “God” wanted these temples built, he would have created the spaces out of natural materials, already built into the earth – waiting for Joseph Smith to find the magic disappearing “golden plates”.

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