The biggest thing that bugs me about christians is that it seems like the only reason they do anything good is because they’re afraid of punishment. The -many- times that their god has been used to cover up horrible shit really reinforces my thoughts on this matter.

No amount of tautology will help your case, zombie-followers. “If Jesus exists then you’ll be real sorry when you end up in a lake of fire to burn for eternity while we’re living it up in heaven!”

Spartan response: “If”

There is historical proof that Jesus existed, but why is it so difficult to recognize that what he taught has been torchured, twisted, and mis-used by organized religion? IMHO, organized religion is an interloper to control the minds of the masses … and this is a comment from a spiritual person. Jesus was an enlightened being who was simply saying “know yourself” … know that you are part of something really special, so respect yourself and others. How much more simple can it possibly be?

Don’t reject the mystery and wonder of whatever caused us to be here or the connection that we might all have … reject those who try to organize it into something they can monetize and control. Organized religion thinks the masses are too stupid to find a way to live peacefully, in harmony and understanding without their intervention but MORE blood has been spilled because of the conflicts between organized religions.

Maybe think about redefining the term Atheist to be those who reject control by organized religions of the world. When Jesus said “The kingdom of heaven is within you” … he meant it … that spark of life that we feel so profoundly inside when we look an incredible sunset or the face of a child. Now, I know the world can be an ugly place (hell, is it?) but that only serves to make us turn “inward” to learn how to find our own connection to others and to find our own peace.

I have no idea what it will take for everyone to reach that point, but person-by-person who does that is living on earth, but also in heaven and when everyone reaches that point we will ALL be in heaven … and that’s ain’t out on a cloud somewhere. That may be almost impossible to imagine how we’ll get there, but it isn’t impossible to conceive of the idea. If we’d all quit polluting, the earth could make for a pretty nice garden, don’t you think?

Sorry Jesus, your going to hell; Messing with the Norris is actually classed as suicide… God doesnt like suicide…

I sincerely hope you understand my point(s).

Categorizing the characters of the following users based on their comments, first impressions, the way they carry their arguments, openess to truth.

KJB = rational and tactful
Josh = rational, means well but might fall into the hype of problems with translations argument
Harrison = Nice guy, though doesn’t believe he seems naive and well versed
Minionette = Cocky, bad willed bitch b*tch you hear it when he goes on saying, “We athiests don’t hate you etc. blah blah
Lifer = Egotistical f**k, who regurgitates arguments, completely bad-willed and will never be open to a different opinion…
The Perfesser = Name says it all, he thinks he’s on some super realm of human intelligence… and then he woke up…
Ryu Murdock = Means well, but most of his arguments fall into theosophic, freemasonic zeitgeist lies of Jesus being the same as Dionysus, Krishna etc…
PhuckJesus = Low -life ignorant Pr*ck, seen many like him, mouths spew constant garbage and they love it. Would probably murder believers and enjoy if he either got paid for it or if in man’s law, the courts would not punish him for it. Definite Stalin wannabe b*tch panzy.
Mercer = Ambitious type of guy, that doesn’t believe not because he hates God etc. because the value system of the religious faith interferes with what he wants out of life, you can see it when he says “believe that you can achieve in life.”
Liz = Head on straight, respectful and rational and open to truth…
Mike O = P*ssy f*ck to swear at a woman, another murderer if given the chance
Creationist = Does not roll with the so called times, maintains integrity, even if faced my many odds
Moses = band-wagon jumper on secular thoughts

We definitely live in a time where everything is secular, where the new cool thing to do is to go out of one’s way and make a mockery of Christ… With us “feeble Christians” we’re like okay we get it, your arguments are so old and played out keep talking. It’s the new fad, the new flavor of the month, “let’s all go out of our way to make these little Christians inferior, let’s dedicate our entire lives because WE have NO LIVES and ridicule them and take their humanity away from them. Heck let’s make a f**king forum labeled 10 Reasons why Superman is better than Jesus… yes that will get them… oooooh I’m cool… hehehehehehe aren’t we so funny take that Christ hehehehehe… We’re mature”

Here’s the truth… There are really only two religions in this world. There’s the religion of God, as a Traditional Catholic (Pre-VaticanII mindset) I believe my religion is right, I even believe the other religions are wrong, I have to believe this or else I’d be a liar, I’ll even say I’m not perfect always in following my beliefs but I still believe it’s the truth… and then there’s the religion of Man (aka Devil’s religion).

Long story short. The religion of God sets the rules of the universe, sets what’s right and wrong and in the end holds everyone accountable for their actions on earth.

Atheism falls along with many other false religions in the category of the religion of Man. Basically Man’s belief substitutes God’s truth. People who fall into this sunconciously share a common unoriginal mindset. They ALL, yes they ALL think like this:

“I’ll believe whatever is convenient for me.”
“I don’t believe because there’s no evidence.”

It’s the religion of convenience where you’re not really held accountable for anything, you won’t be punished for anything. Athiests really enjoy this aspect. All atheists do think alike (yes I’m generalizing because it’s true) and these are your common character traits…

1. Atheists are very arrogant, lack humility and many are elitists.
- It’s easily reflected in the disrespect and hostility towards those who believe in something that’s not material. Look above, Christ w/ a Rifle a very ignorant picture and they know it’s offensive to others and yet they still do it.
- The idea that Someone or something is better and greater than them offends them.
- They always try to come across as “Intellectuals”, they’ll bring up Darwinism, works from Nietzche or Karl Marx etc. and try to present this material with a pompous elite-like attitude as if it’s their own material meanwhile all they’ve done is regurgitate and quote in verbatim.

2. Atheists are very closed minded and ignorant.
- They will commonly use arguments like “First of all the bible is wrong because it contradicts itself.” I’ll ask them back, “well what passages are you talking about?” Most of the time they won’t even know, this shows their manipulative dishonesty.
- They’ll make comments like “Catholic Priests are ALL pedophiles” which is cheap generalization with no merit. Many people don’t know this and even Catholics don’t know this, when a Priest does commit such a crime, they lose their office, meaning their void, they cease being a priest. I’ll admit, Vatican II hasn’t been the best and dealing with this issue though.
- Their idea of something that’s not materially seen cannot exist, is obliterated when you ask them, “If you don’t believe in God because you can’t physically see Him… Then prove to me that you love your daughter, mother, wife etc.?” They’ll hug them but that’s not proving anything… you’re physically putting your arms around them, you’re not physically loving them, just like you don’t see God i don’t see a f**king an energy beam of love going between you and whomever… such a f**king dumb argument.

3. Atheists are bad-willed.
- They will only do something that’s convenient to them or advantageous to them. You’ll present them with truth in good charity and they won’t even make an effort because it’ll takes time and because the material opposes their ideas. If you could put all the effort to read Marx et al., then you can pick up a bible, read a few passages a day, actually try to understand it with humility.
- Athiests will judge the Catholic Church because of inquisitions, falsely claim that Catholic Church are murderers meanwhile… some of the most notorius Athiests were responsible for killing millions of Christians, jews etc…. Athiests will conveniently forget this… 20 f**kin million people killed by Stalin… an Atheist… 2.5 million Pol Pot… an Athiest… 40 million Mao Zhedong… an Athiest
- If you want to generalize, you Atheists by far are the most dangerous breed of people, and the fact that you don’t believe in a higher spiritual authority is scary.
- Who’s to say if given the chance you wouldn’t put a bullet to my ‘inferior’ head if the law wouldn’t hold you accountable for it.

4. Athiests fit the category of “B*tches talk (b*tch as in Atheists), real men Walk the walk (men as in believers)
- You criticize and b*tch like little girls in mentioning things like, “Catholic church is an evil organization they just hoard money…” and I say… uh buddy… “We just raised $4000 for single mothers support, $8000 for our campaign at the church for cancer reseach… ummm what did you do? what organization are you a part of that does this… oh… that’s right nothing… why because you talk like a b*tch, accuser and don’t back up your own words with actions…”

I know I’m going to get a lot of hostility towards and I already know how all of you Athiests will respond…

1. Shove your cross up your….
2. Take a gun and shoot yourself…
3. Bible-thumper get lost
4. This material refutes the bible blah blah blah… *yawn* it’s getting old.

I’d be surprised if any of you respond with tact, class and humility AND with ORIGINAL material…

Just to show you why this believer comes from a faith that is of good… I will actually take 5 min of my time and pray for you guys… Aren’t we believers so evil…

Well, as you said, I hope this message will change your life. C’mon ..dare to live your life..believe me ..there is only one chance you have.

Even if there was evidence that Jesus did in fact exist, that does not prove anything he said was true or he was divine.

Getting all worked up about whether he was or was not a mythical character is pretty pointless as it proves nothing about the claims made by the bible.

God is real…. and no matter what you blinded people say he is comeing back… and the reasion why he is going to end this world is so me can all be in a better place… but if you dont believe than thats just too bad… hell wasnt made foe us. but because of people like you now we can go to it… but i know that for a FACT i am going to heaven… and all thiese things you are saying about God and him being fake.. well explain this… how do we love? how do we feel happy? God created all thiese happy emotions… and of course your probably wondering “why is there sadness, suffering, war?” well all those things happen because we are all sinners and this worls is not perfect… if you all would just believe your mind wouldnt be filled with sooo many questions… and even though you are saying all thiese bad things about God he still loves you and he will always be waiting for you… and if you never believe, when you go to hell you will burn and have your WHOLE lifes mistakes played in fron of you every day. you will be missrable… you will commit suicide EVERY day and end up in the same place. and it will be YOUR fault on why youre there… and everyone who believes will be in heaven… and i feel sorry for you people… you may seem alive nut on the inside your dead. your heart is dead your thoughts are rong and youre mords are foul but you know what? God still loves you
god bless… i hope this message will change your life! x)