Kirk Cameron’s ‘crocoduck’. Infallible proof that evolution is wrong!

In case you’ve never seen this video, I wanted to post it up to remind everyone just how ignorant and stupid Kirk Cameron really is. I don’t want to be mean about it, but this asshole is trying to get people to buy his special re-print of Charles Darwin’s Origin of Species book which includes a 50 page intro that says, in a nutshell, evolution is wrong. I think we can safely assume from this video Cameron has never actually bothered to read the damn thing, but it doesn’t stop him from trying to fight science with all his fundamentalist might!

Also, I love how Bill O’Reily’s thinks he won a debate with Richard Dawkins about how the ‘world got here’. Actually, we can, but that’s besides the point. Bill wouldn’t listen even if you forced him. As far as he is concerned, he already has the answer, and it begins with ‘In the Beginning God created everything’. The only thing this guy ever won in his life is the ‘Douchebag of the year’ award.

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  • avatar

    Eric Ludzenski

    *begins to slowly applaud Mr Cameron…*

    ..but a question: Where did the designer come from?

    Also, for those interested, here is footage of the Dawkins/O’Reilly “debate.” Judge for yourself who won, I think it’s fairly evident.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wECRvNRquvI

  • avatar

    This isn't real.

    Haha, He’s not serious. This is a joke. He had me up until he pulled out the crocoduck. That was ridiculous. You can tell he’s kidding after that. He looks like he’s about to laugh, but he holds it together. Is the host a religious guy? Did he not know that his guest was making a joke?

  • avatar

    lee

    No hollywood career left. It’s easy for an actor to assume the role of a bibleman or whatever christian character. There’s hardly any depth to their personae. Easy money.

  • avatar

    p3ngwin

    Bill O’Reiley:
    “there’s a lot of bitterness on the Atheist side, and there’s some bitterness with the religious community as well. we’ve seen intolerance at that level.look at with Jihad’ists, i mean look at these people who in the name of Allah are blowing up babies”

    that’s right, OTHER religions have bitterness….not yours Bill.

    nothing bitter in the Christian side, nope. won’t find Christians protesting abortion clinics and attacking it’s doctors, stripping Gay rights etc.

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    James

    If things such as a complex eye can only be explained by having been created by a creator then how would they explain such a complex thing as God. If the mere fact that complexity necessitates a designer then wouldn’t the ultimate in complexity, God, need to have been designed? And so it would go if we use their analogy to explain complexity.

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    GreenStar

    one douchebag interviewing another douchebag. I remember being younger and having to watch Bible Man and all that other nonsense. Someone needs to protest outside of his house like all of those nuts do at the womans clinics. See how he likes it.

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    Jeff Mills

    You atheists are extremely angry people who just want to live your lives your own way. By accepting that their is a God would mean changes to your lives. One day you WILL meet him and every knee will bow and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord.

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    Heath

    While the funniest part of his argument is the crocoduck, blatantly Kirk hasn’t the faintest clue about the theory of evolution in that both the corcodile and the duck share a common ancestor, as do all living things but they did not come from one another. ALL living things here today are about equally evolved Kirk. But the design argument has an interesting counterpoint. It may be true that the eye was designed or at least the blueprints manipulated I can maybe on a bad day concede it certainly seems designed. But why must we assume it was “god” why not aliens, a master race of supreme intelligence who started this project and then maybe killed themselves off in a nuclear war around the time of the great exctinction of the dinosaurs? It is more logically feasible at any rate.

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    Sean

    Jeff; There may be a god. ID/Creationism may be right. Evolution may be false. However, we’re talking about science here; evidence dictates theories, not magic. We have mountains of physical data, and evolution is the best theory we’ve come up to explain it. It may be a huge, elaborate joke perpetrated by your god. I’ll grant you that. But scientifically speaking, we have no evidence to support that hypothesis.

    I don’t deny that evolution has gaps which we’ve yet to fill in, but that’s the beauty of science; we will eventually understand how life began and how it works.

    As to your actual post; yes, I do want to live my life my own way. You believe I’ll meet your god someday, I believe differently. Who’s right? What objective metric do we use to settle that conflict?

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    AUJT

    “One day you WILL meet him and every knee will bow and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord.”

    Then what? More bowing and scraping? And then what? Certainly Jeff knows what’s on the agenda. If one can make it to the frothy worshiping part then one should be able to imagine what else will be taking place with complete certainty.

    Herein lies the problem, that *nothing* from a religious view is well thought out. Following their logic, god simply *must* have a designer. They are not interested in the truth. They are afraid if they don’t believe then they’ll spend eternity being tortured. I’ve no use for a “god” that allows such things. So, they are in denial because they simply *must* believe no matter what. They have no choice. It’s pretty sad.

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    jack

    “Jesus, or buddah, or allah…” yes buddah. the creater of the earth. it’s a good thing people with tv shows are well educated

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    Harold

    “Jeff Mills Says:
    October 2nd, 2009 at 11:09 am
    You atheists are extremely angry people who just want to live your lives your own way. By accepting that their is a God would mean changes to your lives. One day you WILL meet him and every knee will bow and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord.”

    A bit confusing, who is the top man? God or jesus? Shouldn’t my knees bow to god? Or does jesus also have that power. Thought it were only god that forced you to do things? Always felt jesus were a likable hippie, going around drinking wine and talking about peace all day.

    Harold from NORWAY (The country were probably over 85% of the population is atheists)

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    Mercer

    @Harold : I guess 85% will spend an eternity in a continuous torture. G, Hell is going to be quite crowded.lol.

    “One day you WILL meet him and every knee will bow and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord.”
    Ok, and how the heck you’re going to recognise him? Is he going to have a name tag? is he going to come over and say good things? Is he going to walk around and cure people? I mean seriously? HOW? How is this going to work?
    “Ok guys I am here. Now we’re going to make a selection of who gets a ticket up and who get’s a ticket down. Let’s start interviewing. (good I don’t work in HR anymore.”
    Guys, wake up. Since the beginning of history people from different cultures were having theories(back then were legends) of how the earth and people were created and all that.
    I’d rather believe in aliens populating the Earth than some crazy book made by humans.
    It’s funny though, how some people try to scare with this bullshit. Do your research and than belive…don’t just blindly believe in something that you don’t know.

  • avatar

    Dingo

    Taken from CatholicReference.net:

    TRINITY, THE HOLY
    A term used since A.D. 200 to denote the central doctrine of the Christian religion. God, who is one and unique in his infinite substance or nature, is three really distinct persons, the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. The one and only God is the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. Yet God the Father is not God the Son, by generates the Son eternally, as the Son is eternally begotten. The Holy Spirit is neither the Father nor the Son, but a distinct person having the divine nature from the Father and the Son by eternal procession. The three divine persons are co-equal, co-eternal, and consubstantial and deserve co-equal glory and adoration.

    Most likely Mr. Mills is a Catholic.

    And yes, this definition makes my head hurt when I think about it. God is both three separate entities, but yet just one? When I see statements like that I tend to just shrug. People will believe what they want to believe. The best one can do is provide information about all of it, and hope people will at least try to make an educated decision about it.

    I believe in the supernatural, but more or less because of a lack of counter-evidence. Once science advances far enough to either prove or disprove such things, and if the evidence proves I have been wrong, I will be among the first to admit it. Afterall, people used to believe that the Earth was flat.

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    Oh, Hi Mark

    Evolution.

    Obviously it exists in some form. I’ve often wondered why some people get some upset about it. Over the years I think I’ve figured it out.

    First off – species adapt to their environment, but there is no proof of one species evolving into another. There just isn’t. Sorry.

    Secondly – the evolution movement is strongly tied to the eugenics movement of the early 20th century. Eugenics is pretty ugly.

    There you go. Lots of anger and arguments distilled down to a couple of basic points.

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    Kurgan

    Oh, Hi Mark-

    “First off – species adapt to their environment, but there is no proof of one species evolving into another. There just isn’t. Sorry.”

    You can be as sorry as you want to be, but its clear you haven’t taken a biology course in the last hundred years or so. If I didn’t think you would be wasting years of your life I would recommend trying to find an actual biologist to support your opinion.

    “Secondly – the evolution movement is strongly tied to the eugenics movement of the early 20th century. Eugenics is pretty ugly.”

    People took Darwin’s theories and came up with Eugenics and Social Darwinism. Yes, Eugenics is bad, and Social Darwinism is bad, that doesn’t mean that Darwin was wrong. The same lack of logic could be used to say that Jesus was violent and immoral because Christians went on to conduct Crusades and the Inquisition. Just because someone abuses the teachings of a person (scientist or religious philosopher) does not mean that their original ideas were wrong.

    Interestingly enough the largest proponents of Social Darwinism today are American Conservative Christians. They use the idea of a moral obligation for self sufficiency to justify conspicuous wealth and eliminating social programs to help the poor. After all, if there is one message Jesus had it was definitely, “Don’t help the poor. They’re poor because they’re too lazy to work, so they deserve to live on the street.” (This was sarcasm. Sometimes people don’t seem to be able to tell)

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    Joe

    I have a feeling Kirk Cameron’s ‘Evolution of species’ is being sold pretty cheap, buy it and just burn the first 50 pages. Or you could probably download a PDF of the original masterpiece.

    ‘the evolution movement is strongly tied to the eugenics movement of the early 20th century. Eugenics is pretty ugly.’ straw man argument? guilt by association?

  • avatar

    Len Kloth

    Fundamentalist elicit an extremely narrow definition of “science,” (redefining it for themselves) that allows them to summarily dismiss evolutionary theory as non-science. Their definition is the popular image of scientists performing repeatable experiments in a controlled lab setting. (While this is how some scientists work,) their definition disqualifies the well-established fields of astronomy, archaeology, paleontology, geology, epidemiology, climatology, linguistics, and as said before-forensics, and a WHOLE HOST of other historical sciences, including history itself. In short, fundies believe that any statement about the past is no better than a guess, makes no allowance for methodological or evidentiary considerations that might render one “guess” better than another. This is ignorance.
    Creationism is religion. And their disdain for historical science is matched by gross misrepresentation of the scientific method. This dismissive attitude might be apt if evolution was “just a hypothesis,” but in fact a theory is much stronger than a hypothesis, Dental theory, gravity theory, etc, etc etc, and requires more in the way of “disproof”-falsification. One wonders why fundies don’t protest juries who convict based on forensics, or protests the theory of gravitation, germ theory of disease, atomic theory of matter; this clearly shows disdain for ALL OF SCIENCE AND SCIENTIST WHICH THEY CALL ‘EVOLUTIONEST.’ Fundamentalism is indeed a prescription for anti-education, and this willful ignorance is why people mock Hovind, Ham, and Cameron, as they have clearly earned it.

  • avatar

    Joel G

    Cameron has one thing right – he’s a simple guy.

  • avatar

    Aaron

    Google “Anatosuchus”

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    Nate

    @Harold : I guess 85% will spend an eternity in a continuous torture. G, Hell is going to be quite crowded.lol

    So hell will be full of Norwegians? Damn, no wonder they call it eternal torment.

  • avatar

    Jonathan

    Say what you and be all ignorant. As it pleases you.

    Jesus is LORD !
    Perhaps you should put a nail down, and watch it miraculously spring to life and start “evolving” lol :D and you claim we’re ignorant ?

    Little do you know that satan is firmly steering you.
    You so blind you don’t even realize the you have the mark of the beast on you, do you ?

    Yes where revelations speaks about the number “666″ that’s all those that don’t have the Holy only begotten Son of GOD, Jesus Christ as their savior.

    You know why you atheists don’t believe their is a God ?
    It’s because you haven’t experienced salvation yet.
    You NEED to be born in spirit to understand things of the spirit.

    Perhaps you’re not aware that they’ve found remains of the Ark, when the great flood took place ?
    How about the chariots when God destroyed in the dead sea ?

    But still you don’t believe.
    You are alive but as dead as a door nail.
    So lost, and it’s sad.
    satan was too an accuser of those in heaven just like you lot are.

    Those in Christ represent an army, and those without Christ make up the “army” of satan !
    Those in Christ Jesus produce fruits of Christ and those in satan produce his fruits.
    (Mocking and scoffing, of the saints).

    You have all the fruits the bible states satan has yet you’re too ignorant to see it.
    Do you know that the majority of “Christians” have got it wrong today ?

    The bible teaches us of predestination. And PRAISE GOD Hullaluja that he saved his sheep.

    Jesus says the following in St John 10 verse 26:  But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.

    Also the bible says “FOR BY GRACE ARE YE SAVED AND NOT OF YOURSELVES, IT IS THE GIFT OF GOD” !

    Jesus said he came for the LOST SHEEP !

    Do you know that I’m sent of God ? Do you know that every single one who is TRULY REBORN in JESUS is SENT of Christ ?

    Jesus praying to the Father St John 17 verse 18:   As thou hast sent me into the world, even so have I also SENT them into the world.

    Have you ever wondered why you scoff and mock the saints ?
    Hello ? What do you get out of it ?
    You’re so lost, you don’t even know do you ?

    You see, it’s because you’re still under the authority of your father satan, who was a liar from the beginning and the father of all lies and deception.

    Do you know that us who are truly in Christ glory in persecutions ? :D
    We LOVE it because that means Christ, and the Holy spirit is within us !

    St John 15 verse 18-19: If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you. 19 If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.

    1 Peter 4 verse 14: If ye be reproached for the name of Christ, happy are ye; for the spirit of glory and of God resteth upon you: on their part he is evil spoken of, but on your part he is glorified.

    We that God chose before the foundation of the world, are sent to testify of the mighty and glorious salvation of our Lord and savior Jesus Christ, and to testify that the works of the world are evil.

    God says he will have mercy on whom he will have mercy and will harden whom he wants to harden.

    Are you one of the lost sheep ? Call to Jesus ! Today is the day of salvation , tomorrow could be too LATE !
    Some of you say “maybe there is a God”

    Let’s so for yourselves I was wrong, I die and that’s it.
    But if you’re wrong ?
    God banishes you the eternal fire FOREVER ! Where you’ll beg ! And plead ! And cry for mercy but your soul dear friend WILL be cast into the fire ! You won’t come out there ever !
    God will no longer have mercy on you because you denied the only begotten Son of God, who died for the lost sheep willingly, and was risen back to life and thus overcame and killed sin out our lives ! Amen !

    Through who’s blood we have been redeemed !
    The bible is not religion, it’s FACT, it’s a history book that accounts for all things, the past, the present and the FUTURE !
    To things currently taking place today, it’s all in the bible.

    To understand things of the spirit, you need to be BORN AGAIN in spirit !

    Lord, I ask that perhaps one reading this may come to the knowledge of the truth, that you may have mercy on Father.
    Show them your power, that through the power of Jesus they may see.
    In Jesus NAME ! But may YOUR will be done father !

    Ephesians 5 verse 14:  Wherefore he saith, Awake thou that sleepest, and ARISE FROM THE DEAD, and Christ shall give thee LIGHT.

    And if you wish to mock more, and call more blasphemes against God whom created you, and call persecutions to the saints in Jesus.

    Well, Ephesians 8 verse 35-39: Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or PERSECUTION, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword? 36 As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter. 37 Nay, in all these things we are MORE THAN CONQUERORS through him that loved us. 38 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, 39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

    Just remember these words of Jesus St John 12 verse 48: He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.

    Will pray for you all .

  • avatar

    Gordon

    Don’t waste your time ya loony Oh wait

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    Robert Doughty

    if this guy got Origin of species reprinted with his text saying he’s wrong can I get a reprinted bible with the preface; To my darling Candy, all characters in this book are fictitious and any resemblance to persons living or dead is purely coincidental

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    john

    BOTTOM LINE…THE BIBLE SAYS WE ARE GOING TO LIVE FOREVER IN EITHER HEAVEN OR HELL. THE QUESTION IS, DO YOU KNOW WHERE YOU ARE GOING?

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    Jeremy

    trying to argue the case for evolution with a religious nut is like trying to have a rational conversation with a young child. In all honesty, the child will probably say something with more truth to it than the jesus freak. @Jonathan, put down the bible and read a book. Also, get a job. You have too much on your hands. Evolution does not try and dispel god, it just explains how life on this planet works. Examples in humans can been seen on the genetic level with individuals heterozygous for sickle cell anemia and their immunity to malaria. Other examples are being discovered with the Beta Globin gene. Unfortunately, to understand anything like genetics, genomics, and evolution, you have to read more than just Bible. There are better books out there believe me.

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