Sam Harris on irrationality

Man, Christians really have no idea why human beings do evil things, do they?

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    LB

    Just another example of a christianist being impervious to reality.

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    Bastard Soap

    Well obviously Sam harris is fighting the good fight, but I am afraid his stlye is useless, he seems to have the mistaken idea that a debate is about the search of truth and also makes the mistake of respecting his opponents. I think he needs to learn from Hitchens who starts out neutral then bites his opponents nut sack off and bludgens them with it when they try to back him into a corner.
    Atheism: If you manage to lose a debate with it, you’re doing it wrong!

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    Impy

    I thought it was an incredibly provocative debate and i think Sam Harris made some incredibly good points. The main thing which frustrates me about these “debates” however is that people who arn’t schooled in the ways of logic and empiricism (usually religious types) will not see the rock solid foundation of Sam Harris’s arguments. All they will see is a white haired man saying things that they agree with in a confident tone & instantly agree with whatever he says.

    All Hugh Hewitt was doing was stating in a confident tone that Sam was wrong and then preaching a little. If you broke down his words & forced him to elaborate the crux of his statements would simply be “i believe that what i am saying is true because i want it to be true”

    It’s really a pity that philosophy and skeptical discussion aren’t subjects at school so more people would be able to identify charlatans.

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    Bastard Soap

    That’s my point exactly Impy, we are aiming for the children of the religious, not for the intellectuals(they usually turn to atheism by themselves, or at least into a non-militant religious form). We need to aim our debates at the children of the retards.
    Impy if we are to make a difference we need to apply our intellects in a pragmatic way, they use their retardedness to the full degree and we also need to act to our strong points or our shed blood will serve no purpose.
    Btw does any one know of any psychological studies dealing with convincing these people how to Not be a menace to society or something along those lines?

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    Impy

    I don’t think there would be any studies on that topic.

    The unfortunate thing is that most religious people have had the “infallibility” of the bible/religion hammered into their heads from such a young age. Because of this, if they maintain their belief into adulthood then the belief is burnt into their personality.

    Trying to convince most religious people of the irrationality of their belief is about as effective as trying to convince a war veteran not to flinch to the sound of a car backfiring.

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    Bastard Soap

    But we can still affect the moderates, and without the support of the moderates the fundamentalists are rightly considered lunatics.

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