TGA Podcast: Episode 32

This week, Ryan and I cover a huge range of topics: Alcoholics Anonymous, Eco-Terrorism, churches that covet the orgasm, and of course the War on Christmas. It’s a hefty 40 minutes of fun! If you’re new to the site, we highly recommend you try the show out.

Note: for those of you wondering where the link to the eco-terrorist article is, simply click here

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    Rob

    Have your friend try “Rational Recovery”. It involves the same basic concept of the steps, but does not require the belief in a higher power.

    I fear you lads are off the mark when it comes to AA though. The reality is that for those whose life is being crushed by addiction, they’ve got much more basic concerns that lie a lot lower on Maslow’s hierarchy than to be in a position to ponder self actualization. Yes, it’s irrational and yes, it’s cultish….but the alternative is much worse. These men and women utilize AA to provide structure that they can’t provide themselves and it allows them to live a satisfying and potentially productive life. It’s not the type of belief system those in the atheist viewpoint would see as worthy, but not everyone can tolerate the conceptual freefall that being an atheist requires comfort with.

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    Zac Henderson

    As someone who has unfortunately had a number of family members and friends deal with alcoholism both on their own and through the AA system, I both agree and disagree with Rob; while I thoroughly agree that most people dealing with severe alcoholism are not in any position to deal with such introspective questions as the [in]existence of a god, I would argue that there is a level of danger with AA in that, as the guys pointed out, belief is somewhat of a linchpin to success in the 10-step system; whether the system could work effectively without said belief or not ends up being irrelevant, as it is pretty much impossible to remove that religion from the system at this point. Additionally, one has to consider the fact that religion is especially prevalent in the same demographics that severe alcoholism is present in. With that said, I believe that even if group leaders were required to try to foster a secular environment, religion will *still* be a powerful motivator.

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    AcadianBacon

    Hey. Here’s a link to a website which offers many links to AA alternatives:

    http://www.deanesmay.com/archives/006854.html

    Also, some good reading. I’ve actually attended a couple AA meetings, and, being a non-theist, it is exactly the religious bent of the organization that steers me clear of it. That, and the perpetual body odour lingering in the air. And, I’m not an alcoholic. Good luck to your friend, Ryan. Oh…btw…there are other drugs which can be taken to reduce the “craving” to drink. His first step is probably talking to his doctor, however, men are notorious procrastinators when it comes to asking for help. Also, there are controlled drinking programs which can be followed as well, and have been shown to be effective. Now I’m rambling. Sorry.

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